At a Glance
A small Brownsville elementary that has quietly become one of District 23's strongest academic performers.
Best suited for
Families in Brownsville or nearby who want a small, tight-knit public school with strong academics, a no-suspension culture, and the willingness to commit to consistent daily attendance.
Overall Rating
Rating = average of NY State ELA + math proficiency, grades 3–8
Bands are Motley's thresholds on a 0–100 scale, not New York State performance levels.
How this is scored→What stands out
- A genuine academic turnaround: from below 15% proficiency in both subjects in 2016 to well above district averages today
- Zero suspensions over three consecutive years — a real commitment to keeping kids in class
- Exceptionally high teacher morale, with 98% rating their own instruction quality and 100% trusting their principal
- Small enrollment of 218 allows for tight relationships between staff and families
- 3rd grade scores (83% ELA, 90% math) rival some of the borough's top-performing elementary schools
Things to consider
- Chronic absenteeism affects nearly half the student body — daily attendance matters more here than at a typical school
- 4th grade proficiency drops noticeably from 3rd grade; ask administrators what's behind the slide
- Very limited demographic diversity — 83% of students are Black
- Sits in one of Brooklyn's poorest census tracts, with limited commercial or institutional resources outside the school building
- Parent satisfaction (90%) is solid but slightly below the district average of 93%
Based on 2024-25 data
School SummaryDistrict 23
With an overall score of 2.86 out of 4 against a district average of 2.06, P.S. 165 is a clear standout in District 23, outperforming most of its peer schools including several well-known charter options in Brownsville.
Academics
The test score trajectory here is one of the more dramatic in District 23. ELA proficiency has climbed from 11.7% in 2016 to 66% in 2025, and math from 7.4% to 76.9% — both now well above district averages of roughly 52% and 51%. The 2025 jump is particularly sharp, suggesting something meaningful shifted in instruction or cohort performance. Third graders are leading the way (83% ELA, 90% math), while fourth-grade scores step down noticeably (52% ELA, 71% math) — a transition worth asking about if your child is approaching that grade.
Culture
This is a school where teachers trust their principal at 100% and rate their own instruction quality at 98% — both well above the district norm. Parent trust in the principal runs at 95%, and 88% of families say there are strong relationships between parents and teachers. Zero suspensions across three consecutive years is striking and points to a real investment in keeping kids in classrooms rather than removing them. The one thing parents should ask about is chronic absenteeism: at nearly 50%, almost half the students are missing enough school to be flagged, even though daily attendance (87.4%) hovers close to the district average.
Community
The student body is 83% Black and 14% Hispanic, mirroring Brownsville's demographics. With a diversity index of just 33%, this is one of the more homogeneous schools in the borough. The economic need index of 89.7% means almost every family here qualifies for free lunch — a marker of the neighborhood's 37.6% poverty rate. Nineteen percent of students have IEPs, and the school serves a self-contained special education class alongside general education students from pre-K through fifth grade.
Neighborhood
Brownsville is a low-income corner of eastern Brooklyn where median household income sits around $33,500 and nearly 38% of residents live below the poverty line. Homeownership is rare at 14%, and fewer than 8% of households include children — so the families raising kids here are a minority within their own neighborhood. The 3 train cuts through the area and makes getting into and out of Brownsville straightforward for families with older kids.
The 3 train stops at Rockaway Av about 8 minutes on foot, Saratoga Av about 9 minutes, and Junius St about 13 minutes.
Academic Performance
ELA Proficiency
Students scoring proficient or above on the NY State ELA exam.
NYC DOE InfoHub · 2022-23
Math Proficiency
Students scoring proficient or above on the NY State Math exam.
NYC DOE InfoHub · 2022-23
Historical Trends
The dashed line marks 2023, when New York changed its grades 3–8 state tests. Scores before and after it aren’t directly comparable.
2020–2021 data unavailable due to COVID-19
Source: NYC DOE School Quality Reports
Survey Results
NYC School Survey (2025) · 105 families responded (54% rate)
Racial & Ethnic Diversity
NYC DOE InfoHub · 2022-23
Discipline
NYSED Student & Educator Database (2023-24)
Economic Need & Special Populations
How to get in, step by step
Pre-K
P.S. 165 Ida Posner also has Pre-K classes. They're a separate application from kindergarten, made on MySchools.
Pre-K application
Applications typically open in the winter and close in the spring, with offers in late spring; the city announces exact dates each year.
Kindergarten
District 23 is a school-choice district, so it has no elementary zones: no address guarantees a seat at P.S. 165 Ida Posner. Families across the district apply on MySchools, and seats go to priority groups first (siblings, then families in the district), then by random lottery.
Kindergarten application
- Opens
- Wed, Dec 9
- Closes
- Fri, Jan 22
- Offers
- Tue, Mar 30
The DOE’s published dates.
- 1Apply on MySchools during the kindergarten application.
- 2Rank every school you'd accept, in true preference order — with no zoned seat to fall back on, a longer list matters.
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Frequently Asked Questions
- Is P.S. 165 Ida Posner a good school?
- On Motley, P.S. 165 Ida Posner earns an overall rating of 72/100 — the average of the school's New York State ELA and math proficiency, grades 3–8, shown out of 100. Its state test results run above the District 23 average.
- What grades does P.S. 165 Ida Posner serve?
- P.S. 165 Ida Posner serves grades Pre-K to 5.
- How do students get into P.S. 165 Ida Posner?
- P.S. 165 Ida Posner admits by application through a random lottery, with no academic screen.
- Is P.S. 165 Ida Posner public, charter, or private?
- P.S. 165 Ida Posner is a public school in NYC Community School District 23.
- What neighborhood is P.S. 165 Ida Posner in?
- P.S. 165 Ida Posner is in Brownsville, Brooklyn.