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P.S. 164 Queens Valley

138-01 77 Avenue

At a Glance

A zoned elementary-to-middle school where families feel deeply connected — but test scores and chronic absenteeism both run hot

Best suited for

Families who live within P.S. 164's zone and prioritize a school where their children will be known by name — particularly those who value a calm, low-suspension environment and don't need their child in a Gifted & Talented or specialized program. Parents comfortable with slightly below-average test scores in exchange for strong relationship culture will find a good fit; families seeking top-tier academics or specific language programs may want to explore district alternatives.

What stands out
  • Zero suspensions for two of the past three years — an exceptionally calm discipline environment
  • Near-universal family reports of 'strong relationships' (100%)
  • Very high teacher-reported safety (97%)
  • Class sizes match the district average (24.7) but feel manageable given the 573-student enrollment
  • P.S. 164 is the zoned school — no application lottery stress for neighborhood families
Things to consider
  • Chronic absenteeism is very high (80%) — nearly all students are missing significant school time, which likely affects classroom momentum and test performance
  • Math scores trail the district average by about 6 percentage points
  • Teacher-principal trust (76%) is noticeably lower than parent trust — a potential leadership disconnect
  • Fifth grade shows notably weak performance (36% math, 50% ELA) compared to other grades
  • ELL support is the only language program — families seeking dual-language or Spanish immersion will need to look elsewhere
  • PTA fundraising is modest ($28/student vs. $50 district average)

Based on 2024-2025 data

School SummaryDistrict 25

Among district peers — which include highly selective schools like The Active Learning Elementary (92/100) and P.S. 079 Francis Lewis (90/100) — P.S. 164 sits squarely in the middle. Its overall score of 2.55/4 trails the district average of 2.69, but it's a very different animal from the application-heavy magnets nearby. For families who want a straightforward zoned school with strong community bonds rather than a competitive program, this is a viable option.

AcademicsSteady

Test scores at P.S. 164 hover close to but slightly below district averages — ELA at 64.1% (district: 65%) and math at 63.3% (district: 70%). The school has rebounded from a dip in 2017-2019 when ELA dipped into the mid-50s and math similarly struggled, and current scores represent a solid recovery. However, performance varies dramatically by grade: fourth graders show strong math proficiency (85%) while fifth graders lag significantly (36% math, 50% ELA). This inconsistency suggests that certain grade-level teams or curricula may be more effective than others — something parents of rising fifth graders in particular may want to investigate.

Cultureconcerning

This is where P.S. 164 truly shines — and also where it faces a real challenge. Family satisfaction sits at 93% with near-universal agreement that the school builds strong relationships (100%). Teachers report 97% safety and 88% instruction quality. Yet teacher-principal trust lags at 76% — notably lower than the 95% parent-teacher trust — suggesting that while families feel heard, staff may have concerns about leadership direction. The school has had zero suspensions for two of the past three years, a stark contrast to the district average of 0.25%.

Community

The student body reflects Kew Gardens Hills itself: 35% white, 32% Asian, 26% Hispanic, 5% Black — a diverse mix that feels more integrated than many Queens neighborhoods. The diversity index of 72% is solid, and with 57.8% economic need, this is a working-to-middle-class community. At 573 students across PK-8, it's a mid-sized school where most children know each other — a contrast to the massive gifted programs nearby.

NeighborhoodKew Gardens Hills

Kew Gardens Hills is a residential, family-oriented neighborhood in central Queens — think tree-lined blocks, a mix of single-family homes and low-rise co-ops, and a community feel that retains some old-Queens charm. Safety scores are middle-of-the-road (55.56 percentile), transit access is limited (31 percentile), but family density is solid and education orientation scores well (67 percentile). There are several parks nearby and the area is known for being quiet and kid-friendly.

Most families walk or drive — the neighborhood is car-oriented with limited subway access. Families without a car may find the commute to nearby transit hubs a consideration.

Academic Performance

ELA Proficiency

64.1%

Students scoring proficient or above on the NY State ELA exam.

NYC DOE InfoHub · 2022-23

Math Proficiency

63.3%

Students scoring proficient or above on the NY State Math exam.

NYC DOE InfoHub · 2022-23

Survey Results

Family Feedback
Satisfaction
93%
Teacher Trust
95%
Principal Trust
93%
Relationships
100%
Teacher Perspective
Instruction
88%
Principal Trust
76%
Collegial Trust
87%
Safety
97%

NYC School Survey (2025) · 440 families responded (85% rate)

Programs & Activities

Academic(1)
Accelerated/Honors
Language(1)
ELL Support

Racial & Ethnic Diversity

Diverse
26%Hispanic/Latino
5%Black
35%White
32%Asian

NYC DOE InfoHub · 2022-23

PTA Fundraising

2024-25
$15,887total raised
$28per student

Source: DOE Local Law 171 disclosure

Economic Need & Special Populations

Economic Need Index
57.8%
IEP Students
15.9%

Discipline

0suspensions (0% of students)
3-Year Trend— Stable
21
22
23

NYSED Student & Educator Database (2023-24)

Frequently Asked Questions
Is P.S. 164 Queens Valley a good school?
On Motley, P.S. 164 Queens Valley earns an overall quality score of 64/100 — a blend of New York State ELA and math results, attendance, and the school-climate survey. Its state test results run in line with the District 25 average.
What grades does P.S. 164 Queens Valley serve?
P.S. 164 Queens Valley serves grades Pre-K to 8.
How do students get into P.S. 164 Queens Valley?
P.S. 164 Queens Valley admits by application through a random lottery, with no academic screen.
Is P.S. 164 Queens Valley public, charter, or private?
P.S. 164 Queens Valley is a public school in NYC Community School District 25.
What neighborhood is P.S. 164 Queens Valley in?
P.S. 164 Queens Valley is in Kew Gardens Hills, Queens.
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